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tulpman schreef op 18 november 2013 17:22:

day high kan nog
eff eindspurtje
Ik help het je hopen, Tulpman!
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En ik ben natuurlijk ook zeer benieuwd hoe Martijn tegen de ontwikkelingen aankijkt? Stomen we door, Martijn, of zijn er adders onder het gras? Fijne avond
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suikerbos schreef op 18 november 2013 18:11:

En ik ben natuurlijk ook zeer benieuwd hoe Martijn tegen de ontwikkelingen aankijkt? Stomen we door, Martijn, of zijn er adders onder het gras? Fijne avond
Komende maanden ontwikkelingen tav verkoop Braziliaanse activiteiten van TNT. Dit kan weer de nodige speculaties opleveren.

Ik blijf nog even zitten.
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suikerbos schreef op 18 november 2013 15:51:

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Mooi nieuws....
Zeker mooi nieuw, helemaal als je het hele artikel leest. Daarom hieronder voor de mensen die niet lid willen worden van een site:
(Is een aardige tekst, maar erg mooi artikel om te lezen als je long zit...)

Executive Summary:

- Pension plan renegotiated as of Jan 1 2014
- Increased retirement age to 67 years old
Workers will now contribute to their pension lowering company's cash contribution
- Rising interest rates will lower overall pension liability on the balance sheet
- PostNL and TNT Express pension liability split
- Postal rate increases approved by Dutch government
- Sunday pickup and Monday delivery dropped starting Jan 1 2014
Continued increase in mail delivery quality higher than European competitors
- 2015 estimated operating income yield to today's price shows upside of nearly 40% and sustainable value creation should continue to beat market over the long-term

PostNL (OTC:PNLYY) has delivered more than 100% since I originally made my thesis late in June. The brevity in price appreciation was unexpected and is another reminder that we never know when Mr. Market will come to his senses and offer a somewhat rational appraisal of valuation. Since the price of PostNL has reached my conservative estimation of intrinsic value, now is a good time to re-evaluate PostNL's business and see whether there is any longer term value in the company. I still believe that an investment in PostNL is attractive at these prices and that the company has the catalysts in place to send the share price 40% higher in two years.

Previous Unknowns

There were a few unknowns when I originally wrote my article in late June. The pension obligation was starting to look way too big to service as mail volumes had been declining at high single to low double digit rates. Delivery workers were protesting which left mail undelivered and led to some unhappy customers, lost revenues and bad press for the company. The European Union had blocked UPS' bid for TNT Express, which led to PostNL having messy financial statements. It was unknown whether the Dutch government would allow PostNL to cancel Sunday pick up and Monday mail delivery to save money to adapt to the double-digit mail declines. It was also unknown whether PostNL's transition to mail depots would have a significant effect on the bottom line and when the company would realize the savings and efficiencies.

Most of the unknowns have worked out to everyone's benefit. First, the pension, what I believed to be the most important risk, has been renegotiated with the unions and is awaiting the last step of trade union member approval. By this stage it is almost certain that the pension plan will be fully renegotiated. In the agreement PostNL was successful in increasing the retirement age to 67 years old, which allows PostNL's pension to wait longer until having to start making payments. Also, employees are now going to contribute to the fund out of their income, which will lessen PostNL's cash contribution by approximately 40million euros. Even more important is that PostNL will now be limited to certain top of payments when previously payments could be unlimited to fund the pension deficit. Lastly, PostNL is in the process of executing an arrangement whereby TNT Express' pension policyholders agreements will be separated and transferred into a separate fund for TNT Express. This again will lessen the liability on PostNL.

With the pension risk nearly off the table, PostNL will also benefit from the Dutch government's decision to cancel Sunday pick up, Monday delivery and the upcoming rate increases. I won't try to estimate the exact cost savings that PostNL would recoup with Monday cancellation, but I am going to make an educated guess that Monday labor costs significantly exceed the revenue generated on Mondays. Otherwise, PostNL would not want to cancel Monday deliveries.

PostNL was able to deliver 96.6% of next-day domestic deliveries on time which is slightly higher than the recently IPOed competitors in Europe.

· Bpost had 94% of domestic next-day delivery mailed on time in 2012

· UK Royal Mail had 92.9% of domestic next-day delivery mailed on time in Q2 of 2013

Valuation

My original thesis valued both the 29.9% stake in TNT Express and a very conservative 5x multiple of normalized earnings at PostNL. PostNL was trading roughly at the same price as the TNT Express stake as if the postal operations were dead. I still continue to believe that PostNL is one of the best mailing company in the world and has qualities that will continue to deliver long-term sustainable shareholder value. The company has an almost absolute deadlock on the Netherlands market and is continually gaining share in the UK, Germany and Italy with their quality delivery service and price. Once PostNL completes their transition to depots, maintenance capex will return back to its low nature leaving gobs of cash to be sent back to shareholders. Some readers might question PostNL's double-digit declines in mail, but we also have to remember that the Dutch government has an incentive to continually allow PostNL to raise postal prices to continue operating and providing quality delivery service to the Dutch. Parcels are also raising fast and PostNL's new depots are built with huge parcel growth in mind.

DEEL 2 HIERONDER, WAS TE LANG VOOR 1 POST....

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Now that the risk of unlimited pension obligations are off the table and the cash contribution to the pension has also been reduced, I think that it is safe to value PostNL as an equity with bond like income. The market sure won't agree with me yet, because PostNL still hasn't reinstated their dividend, but it is only a matter of time.

Since it is known that PostNL will be selling their stake in TNT Express in the mid term, my calculation of PostNL's Enterprise value will take the sale into account. PostNL can get at least 1 billion Euros ($1.4 billion) for their stake in TNT Express and my best guess is that they will use the proceeds to pay off debt. So, with 1.6 billion euros of long-term debt, PostNL's debt will be reduced to roughly 600 million euros. This would equate to a current EV of 3.72 billion (4.72 billion-1.0 billion=3.72 billion). I agree with management's projections that by 2015 PostNL should be earning at least 300 million euros, which would equal an 8% yield to today's price (300/3720=.08).

More of an optimistic estimate would be that PostNL would receive 1.5 billion euros in their sale of TNT Express, which could leave PostNL with debt of 100 million and an EV of 2.65 billion euros. Management's upper estimate of EBIT in 2015 is 370 million euros, which would equal a ~14% yield to today's price (370/2650=13.9%).

Averaging the 8 & 14% yields would leave me with an estimate of 11% yield. We can compare this rate to treasuries, which is a joke at the current time, but historically treasuries have yielded 5-6% and the market has returned 7-9%. I think that it is safe to say that an investment in PostNL still continues to be a wise choice that has a high probability of beating the market over the long-term. I estimate that a 6.6% yield would be a fair valuation for a company such as PostNL by 2015. That would mean that a 40% increase in share price (11%*.4=4.4+6.6=11) would equal a 6.6% yield.

Catalysts

Since the unions have agreed to renegotiate the pension plan, PostNL is very likely to return to paying a dividend in the near future. A reinstated dividend proves to the market that the company will not go bankrupt and that the reorganization is finally keeping up with the mail declines. The sale of TNT Express would also signal to the market that more cash will be available to service PostNL's debt and to reinstate the dividend. My guess is that the demand for yield in this environment is very high and many income-seeking investors will be attracted to PostNL and share prices will rise accordingly.

Conclusion

I still think that it is not too late to make a long-term market beating investment in PostNL. Since the pension risk is nearly off the table, PostNL has a much smaller probability of going under and has many advantages over its competitors in the Netherlands and in Europe. As a totally privatized company, PostNL is able to deal with some of the most difficult postal market conditions in Europe. It won't be long until other European markets start to face similar conditions positioning PostNL very well to compete for market share in the international space.

Additional disclosure: This article is meant for instructional purposes and not meant as a recommendation to buy or sell. The only kind of intelligent investing is through your own due diligence.

Dus......
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"A high probability of beating the market over the long term". Nou Damokless, wat een verhaal zeg, indrukwekkend! Mijn hartelijke dank, ik krijg zo bezoek, we zullen er zo dadelijk een glas rode wijn op drinken, waarbij mijn gedachten even naar jou zullen uitgaan, dan weet je dat even. Goede avond!
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suikerbos schreef op 18 november 2013 17:38:

4,349 Een hele mooie dag. Morgen maar weer verder, ieder een fijne avond
Een mooie dag, fijne avond ook.
En hopen dat we morgen zeker doorstijgen.
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suikerbos schreef op 18 november 2013 18:11:

En ik ben natuurlijk ook zeer benieuwd hoe Martijn tegen de ontwikkelingen aankijkt? Stomen we door, Martijn, of zijn er adders onder het gras? Fijne avond
Tuurlijk, de kern van het artikel betreft dat er dus een potentieel aanwezig is waardoor de koers binnen nu en 2 jaar met 40% verder zou kunnen stijgen... waarbij we ongeveer uitkomen op een koers van 6 euro per eind 2015.

Lijkt dus een mooi tussen-station op weg naar mijn 7 euro scenario voor eind 2016!

:-)

PS. Ik zal morgen ook even in de details van het artikel duiken, wellicht dat ik er daarna nog even op terug ga komen.
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Mooi werk Martijn, mijn dank, een heel aardige bevestiging overigens van een en ander dus.... 2 jaar 40 %. Als je dan beziet hoe fors PostNl de afgelopen tijd gestegen is, dan was de voorgaande tijd daadwerkelijk: accelereren.... Maar 7 Euro eind 2016 vind ik ook prachtig! Goedenacht...
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11 nov was de hoogste koers 4.55
eerst die breken dan kunnen we richting 5gisteren in USA geen superdag hopelijk hoeven we niet in te leveren vandaag en pakken we de 4.50
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AMSTERDAM (AFN) - JP Morgan Asset Management Holdings heeft zijn kapitaalbelang en stemrecht in PostNL teruggebracht. Dat bleek dinsdag uit een melding bij de Autoriteit Financiële Markten (AFM).

JPMorgan heeft nu een kapitaalbelang en stemrecht van 4,84 procent. Dat was bij een eerdere melding nog 5,10 procent voor zowel het kapitaalbelang als het stemrecht, zo valt op te maken uit de archieven van de toezichthouder.
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dit soort berichten willen we niet horen hoe klein de afbouw ook is
dat verklaart wel die koersdaling onlangs!
0.26% belang afbouwen over hoeveel aandelen hebben we het dan?
Damokless
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Is ruim 1 miljoen aadelen wat ze van de hand hebben gedaan, MAAR ze hebben nu nog ruim 20 miljoen aandelen in bezit. Is dus peanuts...
Damokless
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En weer een grote jongen die aan het verkopen is.

Dat is wat ik bedoel met die algoritmes.
Iedereen rent naar de uitgang, en toch houden ze de koers op peil.

Tot dat niet meer lukt en dan sta je ineens 10% lager.
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Wat zul jij slecht slapen. In elk berichtje van jouw hand zit een negatieve ondertoon. Waarom spuit je je berichtjes niet gewoon op Marktgevoel. Daar heb je nogal wat medestanders. Geef Martijn steeds meer gelijk.
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Bij een logisch koersverloop was ik al lang weg geweest...
Maar goed, ik denk alleen dat de feiten mij steeds meer gelijk geven.
Helaas had ik dat in een veel eerder stadium ook, alleen ging de koers toen nog even van €5 naar €1,40.

Dus op naar de €7!
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