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Calimero
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bp5ah schreef op 13 november 2024 15:41:

[...]
Een h(alf(en)) stukje dan heb je al genoeg gevreten van z'n cake :)
Alfen...

120,80
120,80/2 = 60,40
60,40/2 =30,20
30,20/2 =15,10

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Aandeel Alfen N.V. AEX:ALFEN.NL, NL0012817175
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11,740
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Dagrange 11,480 - 11,985

Koffie met cake ??

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Calimero
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Hey ... we hebben er ook 1 van ASML (boven PC van inion) ... benieuwd of dat wat wordt ...

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n.b. We hebben weer dividend gehad ... dus MoB is verschoven naar 631,19

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Hopper58
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voda schreef op 13 november 2024 14:39:

Beursblik: ook verlaging outlook lange termijn ASML dreigt
13-nov-2024 14:37

Na recente waarschuwing voor 2025.

(ABM FN-Dow Jones) ASML zal tijdens de beleggersdag op donderdag vermoedelijk de outlook voor 2030 verlagen. Dit blijkt uit een rondgang onder analisten door ABM Financial News.

Bij de cijfers over het derde kwartaal in oktober, die een dag eerder dan gepland uitlekten, kwam ASML al met een stevige waarschuwing voor 2025, terwijl de toeleverancier van de halfgeleiderindustrie nog wel altijd rekent op een omzet van 28 miljard euro in 2024.

Voor volgend jaar rekent ASML inmiddels op een omzet van 30 tot 35 miljard euro. Dat is een stuk minder dan de oude raming van 30 tot 40 miljard euro. En de brutomarge zal niet 54 tot 56 procent zijn, maar 51 tot 53 procent, vooral als gevolg van vertragingen in de vraag naar EUV.

Voor 2030 hanteert ASML nog altijd een omzetoutlook van 44 tot 60 miljard euro, maar Degroof Petercam verwacht dat deze outlook zal worden verlaagd tijdens de beleggersdag.

De bank denkt dat de bovenkant van de bandbreedte zal worden verlaagd met 5 miljard euro naar 55 miljard euro. "Wij denken niet dat de eindmarkten zo hard zullen groeien als sommige consultancybureaus denken." Degroof hanteert zelf voor 2030 een omzetverwachting van 47 miljard euro. "Maar de consensus van Visible Alpha rekent nog altijd op een verbluffende 57 miljard euro."

Ook UBS rekent op een aanpassing van de outlook voor 2030. De Zwitserse bank verwacht dat de nieuwe outlook uitgaat van een omzet van 45 tot 55 miljard euro. De verwachting voor de brutomarge ziet UBS wel verhoogd worden, van 56 tot 60 procent naar 58 tot 62 procent.

"We denken niet dat de beleggersdag een positieve aanjager wordt", aldus UBS.

Het aandeel ASML daalde woensdagmiddag met 1,1 procent.

Door: ABM Financial News.
Wat cijfertjes in een Motley artikel over AMD:

'The global semiconductor industry generated an estimated $439 billion in revenue in 2020, according to the Semiconductor Industry Association (SIA). The industry is expected to finish 2024 with revenue of $611 billion. That would translate into a four-year compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.6%.

The good part is that the global semiconductor market is forecast to clock a stronger annual growth rate of just over 10% for the next five years, generating almost $981 billion in annual revenue in 2029. This faster growth is set to be driven by the growing need for chips required to power artificial intelligence (AI) applications.

From data centers to smartphones to personal computers (PCs), AI is set to drive a robust increase in chip consumption in the coming years. Market research firm Omdia estimates that sales of AI chips deployed in data centers could hit $151 billion in 2029, compared to an estimated $78 billion in 2024. On the other hand, sales of AI-enabled PCs are expected to hit $231 billion in 2030, compared to $50.6 billion this year.'

www.fool.com/investing/2024/11/13/whe...
LexKalin
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Hopper58 schreef op 13 november 2024 16:14:

[...]

Wat cijfertjes in een Motley artikel over AMD:

'The global semiconductor industry generated an estimated $439 billion in revenue in 2020, according to the Semiconductor Industry Association (SIA). The industry is expected to finish 2024 with revenue of $611 billion. That would translate into a four-year compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8.6%.

The good part is that the global semiconductor market is forecast to clock a stronger annual growth rate of just over 10% for the next five years, generating almost $981 billion in annual revenue in 2029. This faster growth is set to be driven by the growing need for chips required to power artificial intelligence (AI) applications.

From data centers to smartphones to personal computers (PCs), AI is set to drive a robust increase in chip consumption in the coming years. Market research firm Omdia estimates that sales of AI chips deployed in data centers could hit $151 billion in 2029, compared to an estimated $78 billion in 2024. On the other hand, sales of AI-enabled PCs are expected to hit $231 billion in 2030, compared to $50.6 billion this year.'

www.fool.com/investing/2024/11/13/whe...
Fool is nogmaals een van de slechtste en minst betrouwbare sites die allerlei onzin verspreid gegenereerd door AI. Kopieer aub daar niks van. Echt voor de dwazen zoals het heet.
Roonie giant
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LexKalin schreef op 13 november 2024 16:20:

[...]

Fool is nogmaals een van de slechtste en minst betrouwbare sites die allerlei onzin verspreid gegenereerd door AI. Kopieer aub daar niks van. Echt voor de dwazen zoals het heet.
Inderdaad,
je kan wel Fool lezen, om bijkomende informatie,
maar op al die jaren, leiden die "+" berichten niet tot "+" koersen, integendeel,
en "-" berichten leiden dan ook wel eens naar positieve koersen,
een verwittigd persoon is er twee waard
zjeeraar
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LexKalin schreef op 13 november 2024 16:20:

[...]

Fool is nogmaals een van de slechtste en minst betrouwbare sites die allerlei onzin verspreid gegenereerd door AI. Kopieer aub daar niks van. Echt voor de dwazen zoals het heet.
Idd, daar zou ook eens wat meer controle op moeten zijn.... wat een onzin toch...

ASML + AI = 3....voor de wiskundige onder ons.....(!!).
bp5ah
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zjeeraar schreef op 13 november 2024 16:49:

[...]

Idd, daar zou ook eens wat meer controle op moeten zijn.... wat een onzin toch...

ASML + AI = 3....voor de wiskundige onder ons.....(!!).
En dit rijmt :)

ASML + AI = 3
Voorlopig NI

Chippers zijn uit de mode hier.
zjeeraar
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bp5ah schreef op 13 november 2024 16:53:

[...]
En dit rijmt :)

ASML + AI = 3
Voorlopig NI

Chippers zijn uit de mode hier.
Zonder ASML geen AI chips = 3
MM22MM
3
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bp5ah schreef op 13 november 2024 16:53:

[...]
En dit rijmt :)

ASML + AI = 3
Voorlopig NI

Chippers zijn uit de mode hier.
Niveau is weer ver te zoeken.
Winnetoe
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Hoe het ook zij: op 28 januari 2025 gaan we de 2024 resultaten en de nieuwe outlook horen. Zal veel duidelijk worden.
Hopper58
1
The Dash for Chips Act Cash Before Trump Takes Office
By
Bill Alpert

Last Updated: Nov. 13, 2024 at 9:15?a.m. ET
First Published: Nov. 13, 2024 at 7:39?a.m. ET

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump had harsh words for the Chips and Science Act, the $50 billion legislation that Joe Biden signed in 2022 to return semiconductor manufacturing to American shores. Tariffs could do that without spending a dime, Trump told podcaster Joe Rogan.

Congress has thus far funded $39 billion under the Chips Act. Of that, $36 billion has been awarded by the Commerce Dept. to Intel, MicronTechnology, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, Texas Instruments, and others.

But no money has been disbursed.

So with Trump’s victory, the chip industry, chambers of commerce, and Wall Street are anxious about the money.

Tuesday afternoon, business groups in Ohio, New York, Oregon, and New Mexico sent Biden a letter imploring him to distribute the funds in the next 30 days.

“The Chips Act passed over two years ago, and these funds are long overdue to reach domestic chip makers across the United States,” said Ohio Chamber of Commerce CEO Steve Stivers, in an accompanying press release.

“It’s time to wrap it up,” Stivers told Barron’s. “We just want to see the money start to flow.”

Here’s good news for an anxious chip industry. Late Tuesday, a person familiar with Biden administration plans told Barron’s that the Commerce Dept. will award all of the Congressionally funded $39 billion before the end of Biden’s term.

The $36 billion in announced Chips Act awards were just letters-of-intent. Next come long-form term sheets. Finally, both sides negotiate and sign legally binding agreements. Actual disbursement will be pegged to construction milestones over the coming years.

There’s a lot riding on these awards. Intel shares have lost over half their value this year, as the company fell behind Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices in artificial-intelligence chips.

Meanwhile, Intel has invested $30 billion toward projects in Ohio, Arizona, Oregon, and New Mexico designed to keep it at chipmaking’s leading edge. Two planned Intel chip foundries near Columbus represent the largest private-sector investment in Ohio history. Along with 7,000 jobs in their construction, the Ohio plants would bring 3,000 permanent workers. No wonder 10 Ohio trade groups joined its Chamber of Commerce in pressuring the White House.

The chamber of commerce pleas to the White House take place against a negotiating backdrop. Intel is hammering out final terms with the Commerce Department for up to $20 billion in Chips Act grants and loans.

“We continue to work with the Biden administration to finalize our award,” Intel told Barron’s Tuesday night. “The Commerce Department has publicly said that it wants to complete the process by the end of the year.”

“These are tough negotiations,” said a government source familiar with the Chips Act. “They’re not designed to be a rubber stamp.”

Despite Trump’s campaign rhetoric, it’s likely that Chips Act spending will continue under the next administration. While the chip industry presses Biden’s Commerce Department for cash commitments before the changeover, the companies finding Republican champions.

“The idea behind the Chips and Science Act began in the first Trump administration and maintains strong bipartisan support,” said Intel. “We look forward to working with the Trump administration.”

The Chips Act has had plenty of bipartisan fans. Projects planned under the program are sited in Ohio, Arizona, and other places that went for Trump, in last week’s election. Ohio’s Republican governor Mike DeWine has cheered the Chip Act spending plans, as has the state’s newly elected Republican senator Bernie Moreno. Vice president-elect J.D. Vance has one of his U.S. senate offices in Columbus, near Intel’s planned foundries.

Only one Chips Act project has completed a binding agreement for funds. Polar Semiconductor will get $123 million as it builds a $525 million plant in Bloomington, Minn.

Commerce awarded $1.5 billion to Malta, N.Y.-based GlobalFoundries. Its chief executive Thomas Caulfield told CNBC that he was comfortable that the Chips Act’s bipartisan support meant that its funding would continue under Trump.

“We continue to work with the Chips office to finalize our agreement,” a GlobalFoundries spokesperson told Barron’s.

“The Chips and Science Act, a key part of the Biden-Harris administration’s Investing in America agenda, is already making a difference in countless communities across the country,” White House spokeswoman Robyn Patterson told Barron’s in a statement. “The administration will continue to implement this bipartisan law with speed and efficiency until the end of the term.”

In response to Barron’s questions, the Commerce Dept. issued this statement: “The Chips and Science Act passed with overwhelming bipartisan support and it has unlocked more than $400 billion in total investments, is expected to create more than 125,000 jobs.”

“We will have more announcements in the coming weeks,” the agency’s statement concluded.

www.marketwatch.com/articles/trump-bi...
zjeeraar
0
quote:

Hopper58 schreef op 13 november 2024 17:01:

The Dash for Chips Act Cash Before Trump Takes Office
By
Bill Alpert

Last Updated: Nov. 13, 2024 at 9:15?a.m. ET
First Published: Nov. 13, 2024 at 7:39?a.m. ET

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump had harsh words for the Chips and Science Act, the $50 billion legislation that Joe Biden signed in 2022 to return semiconductor manufacturing to American shores. Tariffs could do that without spending a dime, Trump told podcaster Joe Rogan.

Congress has thus far funded $39 billion under the Chips Act. Of that, $36 billion has been awarded by the Commerce Dept. to Intel, MicronTechnology, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, Texas Instruments, and others.

But no money has been disbursed.

So with Trump’s victory, the chip industry, chambers of commerce, and Wall Street are anxious about the money.

Tuesday afternoon, business groups in Ohio, New York, Oregon, and New Mexico sent Biden a letter imploring him to distribute the funds in the next 30 days.

“The Chips Act passed over two years ago, and these funds are long overdue to reach domestic chip makers across the United States,” said Ohio Chamber of Commerce CEO Steve Stivers, in an accompanying press release.

“It’s time to wrap it up,” Stivers told Barron’s. “We just want to see the money start to flow.”

Here’s good news for an anxious chip industry. Late Tuesday, a person familiar with Biden administration plans told Barron’s that the Commerce Dept. will award all of the Congressionally funded $39 billion before the end of Biden’s term.

The $36 billion in announced Chips Act awards were just letters-of-intent. Next come long-form term sheets. Finally, both sides negotiate and sign legally binding agreements. Actual disbursement will be pegged to construction milestones over the coming years.

There’s a lot riding on these awards. Intel shares have lost over half their value this year, as the company fell behind Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices in artificial-intelligence chips.

Meanwhile, Intel has invested $30 billion toward projects in Ohio, Arizona, Oregon, and New Mexico designed to keep it at chipmaking’s leading edge. Two planned Intel chip foundries near Columbus represent the largest private-sector investment in Ohio history. Along with 7,000 jobs in their construction, the Ohio plants would bring 3,000 permanent workers. No wonder 10 Ohio trade groups joined its Chamber of Commerce in pressuring the White House.

The chamber of commerce pleas to the White House take place against a negotiating backdrop. Intel is hammering out final terms with the Commerce Department for up to $20 billion in Chips Act grants and loans.

“We continue to work with the Biden administration to finalize our award,” Intel told Barron’s Tuesday night. “The Commerce Department has publicly said that it wants to complete the process by the end of the year.”

“These are tough negotiations,” said a government source familiar with the Chips Act. “They’re not designed to be a rubber stamp.”

Despite Trump’s campaign rhetoric, it’s likely that Chips Act spending will continue under the next administration. While the chip industry presses Biden’s Commerce Department for cash commitments before the changeover, the companies finding Republican champions.

“The idea behind the Chips and Science Act began in the first Trump administration and maintains strong bipartisan support,” said Intel. “We look forward to working with the Trump administration.”

The Chips Act has had plenty of bipartisan fans. Projects planned under the program are sited in Ohio, Arizona, and other places that went for Trump, in last week’s election. Ohio’s Republican governor Mike DeWine has cheered the Chip Act spending plans, as has the state’s newly elected Republican senator Bernie Moreno. Vice president-elect J.D. Vance has one of his U.S. senate offices in Columbus, near Intel’s planned foundries.

Only one Chips Act project has completed a binding agreement for funds. Polar Semiconductor will get $123 million as it builds a $525 million plant in Bloomington, Minn.

Commerce awarded $1.5 billion to Malta, N.Y.-based GlobalFoundries. Its chief executive Thomas Caulfield told CNBC that he was comfortable that the Chips Act’s bipartisan support meant that its funding would continue under Trump.

“We continue to work with the Chips office to finalize our agreement,” a GlobalFoundries spokesperson told Barron’s.

“The Chips and Science Act, a key part of the Biden-Harris administration’s Investing in America agenda, is already making a difference in countless communities across the country,” White House spokeswoman Robyn Patterson told Barron’s in a statement. “The administration will continue to implement this bipartisan law with speed and efficiency until the end of the term.”

In response to Barron’s questions, the Commerce Dept. issued this statement: “The Chips and Science Act passed with overwhelming bipartisan support and it has unlocked more than $400 billion in total investments, is expected to create more than 125,000 jobs.”

“We will have more announcements in the coming weeks,” the agency’s statement concluded.

www.marketwatch.com/articles/trump-bi...
Trump gaat met heel veel $$$ de chipindustrie naar zich toe trekken, omdat daar het grote geld verdient gaat worden en gaat ook ASML zeker geen windeieren leggen...
bp5ah
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Fermín Romero de Torres XI schreef op 13 november 2024 16:56:

[...]Niveau is weer ver te zoeken.
Daar zorg jij wel voor toch, altijd lullen naar (eigen/geen) positie.
retro
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Verit
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Lieutenant Price
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Verit schreef op 13 november 2024 17:21:

ASML investor day en NVIDIA cijfers op dezelfde dag... Dat wordt spannend :-)
NVIDIA kwartaalcijfers zijn pas op 21 november.
Verit
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Verit schreef op 13 november 2024 17:21:

ASML investor day en NVIDIA cijfers op dezelfde dag... Dat wordt spannend :-)
Oh, ik dubbelcheck net, en blijkbaar vergis ik me wat betreft NVIDIA.
Nakennis
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Verit
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Lieutenant Price schreef op 13 november 2024 17:23:

[...]
NVIDIA kwartaalcijfers zijn pas op 21 november.
Idd. Blijkbaar destijds verkeerd in de agenda gezet.
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