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Omnius 26 september 2016 22:52

Ik voel me wel een early adaptor hier. Hoe kan het dat er op zo'n groot beleggingsforum, zo weinig aandacht is voor deze ontwikkeling, die op het punt staat de bankwereld op zijn kop te zetten?

nobahamas 26 september 2016 23:36

quote:
Omnius schreef op 26 september 2016 22:52:
Ik voel me wel een early adaptor hier. Hoe kan het dat er op zo'n groot beleggingsforum, zo weinig aandacht is voor deze ontwikkeling, die op het punt staat de bankwereld op zijn kop te zetten?

Omdat dit een onduidelijke draad is waar niemand de moeite neemt om in begrijpelijk Nederlands uit te leggen waar deze draad over gaat.
De titel van de draad is onduidelijk, en na tien postings gelezen te hebben denk je; "laat maar"

Frederik C. 26 september 2016 23:41

Vandaag FT:

Special Report: The Payments Revolution
Financial industry faces extreme disruption in payments
www.ft.com/content/1b82a0e6-4f67-11e6...

't Blijft een groot risico...;-)

Vergelijk:
May 22, 2010 10,000 BTC spent on pizza (en dan bestaat BTC al 3 jaar)....5 jaar later $1.200 per BTC

nobahamas 26 september 2016 23:45

quote:
Frederik C. schreef op 26 september 2016 23:41:
Vandaag FT:

Special Report: The Payments Revolution
Financial industry faces extreme disruption in payments
www.ft.com/content/1b82a0e6-4f67-11e6...

't Blijft een groot risico...;-)

Vergelijk:
May 22, 2010 10,000 BTC spent on pizza (en dan bestaat BTC al 3 jaar)....5 jaar later $1.200 per BTC

bovenstaande posting spreekt boekdelen.

Frederik C. 26 september 2016 23:51

Welke vraag heb je nobahamas?

Frederik C. 27 september 2016 00:08

SIBOS nu, Money2020 over een maand met:

Leveraging Distributed Ledgers to Enable Real Time X-Border Payment Networks
8:30 - 9:20am,Monday
Palazzo Ballroom E,F,G - The Venetian Level 5

Session Description

As new solutions emerge in the market to clear and settle cross-border payments for consumers and corporations in real-time, market adoption is heavily influenced by the breath and size of the network – the number of banks, corridors and currency pairs available to send and receive payments. What does it take to build and operate a real-time global payment network? Should there be one or multiple networks? Will networks be open to all participants or limited by membership? Hear from leading banks, high tech, and payment services providers leading the design, creation and management of payment networks to enable real-time cross-border intra-bank, consumer and corporate payments.

Panelists / Presenters
Frank Boberach
Head of Product Management & Vice Division Manager Sales Management
ReiseBank

Sandeep Davé
Director, Global Digital Strategy
Citigroup

Colin Dinn
Chief Technology Officer
Siam Commercial Bank

Brad Garlinghouse
President & COO
Ripple

Jason Tiede
Managing Director & Head of Innovation, Global Transaction Services
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Moderators
Swee-May Ngeow
Managing Director
Accenture

Description

A global marketplace requires payments within and across international borders that are interoperable, real-time and cost-effective for all stakeholders. New digital solutions are being developed around the globe that disrupt the status quo to address unmet consumer and business remittance needs. In the US, the Federal Reserve Bank has assembled a task force to identify and assess alternative approaches for implementing safe, ubiquitous, faster payments capabilities. In this track, hear from the innovative organizations that are overcoming enormous technical and business challenges to enable a new breed of payments platforms.
www.money2020.com/sessions/leveraging...

Omnius 27 september 2016 20:38

hier een filmpje waar een toepassing van Ripple bij een transactie tussen twee banken 'live' te volgen is:
youtu.be/bAnHzDEP8GM

Omnius 27 september 2016 20:40

voor diegene die Ripple nog helemaal niet kennen: een complete presentatie van de mogelijkheden en toepassingen:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIGIjcNMPR4

Frederik C. 27 september 2016 23:27

"Ripple’s new global head of strategic accounts Marcus Treacher told CoinDesk, “The messaging today across borders is Swift. The de facto way everyone moves money through countries is Swift. That’s what we think we can do better with Ripple.”
futurism.com/new-banking-partnership-...

Frederik C. 1 oktober 2016 00:52

Ripple’s XRP Gets Strong Vote of Confidence Following Global Bank Investments

This could simply be speculators, but utilization of Ripple’s technology can drive demand for the currency itself. Ripple specializes in the gigantic market for interbank settlement, the high level process where banks sort out how much money they owe each other after millions of daily transactions between customers.

Ripple has strategically built a technology stack that lets banks use whatever kind of ledger they want in house and settle via Ripple, which costs less than legacy systems, as Ripple CEO Chris Larsen explained for the Observer in our prior reporting. It saves much more if banks use its currency to smooth settling, which makes sense. If lots of different banks working in different currencies convert their funds into one cryptocurrency before squaring books with each other, the process should get a lot easier. If big banks come to use XRP in that way, that drives more non-speculative demand for XRP, which could keep the gains in place. Maybe.
observer.com/2016/09/ripple-xrp-stand...

Het afscheid van SWIFT...

Frederik C. 4 oktober 2016 00:15

Oude spelers verdwijnen niet zomaar, mits ze flexibel zijn. De banken hebben dat goed begrepen. Neem Ripple, een gecentraliseerd betaalsysteem op basis van blockchain, waar onder andere Santander en Rabobank mee werken. Nog bekender is R3 CEV, een collectief van dertig grootbanken om een gezamenlijke blockchain-bankenstandaard te ontwikkelen. Het doel is de afhandelaar van het internationale betaalverkeer, Swift, uit te schakelen.
fd.nl/ondernemen/1128795/banken-sprin...

1 jaar later...Eerste massa ontslag bij ING...Letterlijk op zoek naar een nieuw verdienmodel...

[verwijderd] 4 oktober 2016 18:46

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Frederik C. schreef op 7 december 2013 22:13:
www.slideshare.net/ripplelabs/ripple-...

xrptalk.org/blog/12/entry-15-what-is-...

ripple.com

...en er is zoveel meer... Banken zullen naar nieuwe verdienmodellen moeten gaan!

Zo zo, je was er vroeg bij (Ab van mij).
Ik had dit onderwerp helemaal niet verwacht op IEX
Jammer dat ik dit draadje nooit eerder had opgemerkt.
Ik ben onlangs ook ingestapt in Ripple, Ethereum en Stratis.
Op Ethereum al 25% winst.

Ik ben benieuwd hoe dit de komende jaren gaat lopen.

[verwijderd] 4 oktober 2016 18:49

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Omnius schreef op 11 juli 2016 22:32:
Snap niet dat er zo weinig aandacht is voor crypto hier op het forum, hoe vaak krijg je de kans om in te stappen aan het begin van een compleet nieuwe technologie? Dit is de grootste revolutie in financiële transacties sinds de uitvinding van geld zelf.
Misschien ben ik te optimistisch, maar het is in elk geval erg interessant om te volgen en mee te maken.

Helemaal mee eens

Frederik C. 6 oktober 2016 01:02

Some of the world’s more forward-thinking banks are investing heavily in blockchain technology. Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, UBS, Rabobank, Westpac and Commonwealth Bank are just a few working on blockchain.

While these banks will benefit, the companies that are bringing blockchain to the banks could profit the most. Companies such as Ripple and Circle are just two that will soon be household names.

Let’s be clear — blockchain technology is the new banking system. But in order for it to be a real success, the current banking system has to fail.
www.moneymorning.com.au/20161005/bloc...

Frederik C. 7 oktober 2016 23:23

FED bereidt wereld voor op Ripple:
“Like many new financial technologies, distributed ledgers could ameliorate or exacerbate traditional financial risks,” she said.
www.coindesk.com/federal-reserve-payi...

Frederik C. 9 oktober 2016 23:22

Volume zal vanaf 11 oktober sterk stijgen:

www.cryptofacilities.com/resources

1 About Crypto Facilities

What is Crypto Facilities?

Crypto Facilities is a professional trading platform for derivatives on digital assets. We are a London-based company.

What can I do with the platform?

You can trade digital assets long and short with up to 50x leverage, hedge price risk or safely store your bitcoins using our insured, blockchain-settled storage solution.

Are you regulated?

Our Futures are regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA). We are an Appointed Representative of Met Facilities LLP. Met Facilities is a London-based financial services provider and authorized and regulated by the FCA.

twitter.com/CryptoFLtd/status/7852179...

Omnius 10 oktober 2016 08:37

is fake, maar ik dacht vanmorgen even dat we echt los waren:
3 Ripple Ripple $978,855,425 $0.027592 35,475,802,044 XRP * $8,522,740 275.50%
(vanmorgen nog even 0.033 toen ik wakker was ;-) toen weer even 2e in de lijst)

[verwijderd] 10 oktober 2016 10:22

+300%? Dat was even schikken deze ochtend...
coinmarketcap.com/#EUR
coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ripple/#BTC

in het aantal verkopen lijkt dit inderdaad niet de realiteit weer te geven....

Omnius 10 oktober 2016 13:34

cointelegraph.com/news/ripple-explode...

While the recent buzz on Bitcoin and Ethereum has gone cold as of late, Ripple has quietly been making quite a run within mainstream circles. Making fast friends within the banking industry of late, Ripple is starting to make an impact and may offer a future alternative to established global trading icons like SWIFT. However, something happened Monday morning that has never happened before in the history of Ripple. Here what we know so far.

Trading doubles within a half an hour

According to CoinMarketCap, Ripple has reached a new all-time market capitalization high in early Monday morning trading, or Sunday night if you are in the West. In one hour, Ripple trading volumes went from $3.25 million to over $8 million, pushing the market cap to a new record of over $1.25 Billion.

Ripple market cap

However, Ripple trading on September 15th, 2016 reached higher levels, rates of over $22M, and Ripple’s values did not increase nearly this dramatically. Crypto Compare does corroborate that Ripple trading levels did spike Sunday/Monday.

This story is developing and we will learn more as the day and week progresses, but there is one theory that may explain it, depending on their influence. Crypto Facilities out of London has released information on a Ripple/XRP Futures/Derivatives trading platform that will launch on Tuesday morning. Here is part one of their five-part tweet on the subject.

Follow
CryptoFacilitiesLtd @CryptoFLtd
1/5 Documentation for XRP Futures now available on www.cryptofacilities.com/derivatives/... …, trading to launch Tuesday 11th, 8:00 am UTC
10:38 PM - 9 Oct 2016
19 19 Retweets 24 24 likes
Given that the primary volume buyers of Ripple at this point seem to be banks, and we all know the affinity bankers have for trading derivatives, this could explain the phenomenon. For a detailed description of their new platform, click here. Potentially, the bankers got wind of the new system and are moving in on it.

Ripple recently made news with their new Global Payments Steering Group (GPSG) that seeks to create a global bankers’ network that works off of proprietary Blockchain. The banks involved include Bank of America/Merrill Lynch, Santander, UniCredit, Standard Chartered, Westpac Banking Corporation, and Royal Bank of Canada.

Time will tell if this is a new sustainable market value for Ripple, but it appears that it has made quite an impression on the institutional market. We’ll update this story as it progresses.

[verwijderd] 10 oktober 2016 13:52

Had zondag al een order geplaatst. (Helaas te laag)
Vannochtend nog snel een order geplaatst.
De ontwikkelingen rondom Ripple zijn enorm.

Ethereum gaat door de hackers aanval wat minder, maar dat gaat binnen twaalf maanden ook wel weer naar 16/20 euro.
Het lijkt een mooi moment te zijn om bij te kopen

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