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ZeroDix
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luchtschip schreef op 20 februari 2023 14:20:

Two great men, hanging out in Kyiv.

It's reported Biden insisted he should visit Ukraine's capital today, rather than meet Zelensky on the Polish border.

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twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/16276...
Lekker weertje daar.....
seance
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Freemoneyforever schreef op 20 februari 2023 14:19:

Ukraine war ‘over’ unless EU boosts military support, says top diplomat

Foreign affairs chief tells Munich security conference provision of ammunition has to be solved quickly

The war with Ukraine will be over unless the EU finds a way in weeks to speed up the provision of ammunition to Ukraine, Josep Borrell, the EU foreign affairs chief, warned on the final day of the Munich security conference.

He said a special meeting of EU defence ministers slated for 8-9 March will provide a chance for countries to offer ammunition from their existing stocks, adding it is taking up to 10 months for European armies to order and receive a single bullet.

“We are in urgent war mode,” he said. “This shortage of ammunition has to be solved quickly; it is a matter of weeks.” He said if it was not the war would be over.

Borrell will also table plans at a meeting of EU foreign ministers on Monday to use the existing €3.6bn (£3.2bn) European peace facility for the EU to procure ammunition jointly on the model of the procurement of vaccines during the Covid crisis, an idea first proposed by the Estonian prime minister, Kaja Kallas.

Borrell said the Estonian idea would work in the medium term, but he believes the urgency of the shortages is such that it requires EU countries to draw on existing stocks. “We have to use what member states have,” he said.

“Much more has to be done and much quicker. There is still a lot to be done. We have to increase and accelerate our military support. It currently takes almost 10 months for the European army to buy a bullet for the calibre of 155mm, almost one year, and almost three years to buy an air-to-air missile. This is not in accordance with the war situation in which we live.”

Kallas, speaking at the same event, said Russia was in a wartime mode, producing ammunition across three shifts, adding there needed to be a similar war footing in Europe. She claimed defence industry executives had told her they had no orders from the EU.

Borrell said the absence of ammunition was because “we forgot about classical wars – we were only engaged with expeditionary forces and technological Blitzkrieg.”

He said some European countries, such as Poland, had doubled their defence budgets, while France was boosting its defence spending by 40%, from €39bn to €59bn.

He pointed out that defence remained a national state competence in the EU, but said if the EU increased defence spending with “everyone in its own corner, we will increase our duplications and not fill in our loopholes”.

He said the war in Ukraine may act as an awakening or incentive to break taboos by increasing defence interoperability across Europe but added that experience showed this would not change overnight, and bewailed a culture of delays that he said weakened the coordinating role of the European Defence Agency.

“We have taken too much time to make critical decisions such as providing battle tanks,” he said, “when everybody knows that in order to win a classical war, a classical war with manoeuvres of heavy arms, you need battle tanks. You will not win this war without this kind of arms.”
www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/19...
politici, ambtenaren en snelheid. contradictie!
luchtschip
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ZeroDix schreef op 20 februari 2023 14:22:

[...]

Lekker weertje daar.....
Dat heb je goed bemerkt

De Weergoden en Koning winter hebben de zijde van Oekraïne gekozen

Bijna exact 1 jaar geleden ( 24 februari 2022 ) wilde Putin met een drie daagse zegetocht naar Kyiv gaan
Het weer, sneeuw, kou en modder, speelde Putin's leger parten en kon Putin's leger Kyiv niet veroveren en was Kyiv een onbereikbare plaats voor Putin

Zelensky hield stand en met hulp van de Weergoden en Koning Winter kan Zelensky de Groten der Aarde ontvangen op een stralende Winterdag
ZeroDix
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luchtschip schreef op 20 februari 2023 14:37:

Lekker weertje daar....
[...]

Dat heb je goed bemerkt

De Weergoden en Koning winter hebben de zijde van Oekraïne gekozen

Bijna exact 1 jaar geleden ( 24 februari 2022 ) wilde Putin met een drie daagse zegetocht naar Kyiv gaan
Het weer, sneeuw, kou en modder, speelde Putin's leger parten en kon Putin's leger Kyiv niet veroveren en was Kyiv een onbereikbare plaats voor Putin

Zelensky hield stand en met hulp van de Weergoden en Koning Winter kan Zelensky de Groten der Aarde ontvangen op een stralende Winterdag
De uitgebreide versie zeg maar ....
luchtschip
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President Biden schrijft in het gastenboek van Kyiv :

February 20 2023 :

I am Honored to be welcomed again in Kyiv to stand in solidarity and friendship

See the freedom loving people of Ukraine

Mr President,
please accept my deepest respect for your courage and leadership

Slava Ukraini

Joe Biden

hier het handgeschreven document

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twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/16276...
luchtschip
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King Charles III today paid a visit to Ukrainian servicemen currently undergoing training in the UK.

video 0:11 minuut

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/162765...
luchtschip
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A video of Biden and Zelenskyi visiting the St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery where they laid flowers for those who died. They also visited the plaque that was dedicated to Joe Biden on the Alley of Courage in Kyiv.

video 2:17 minuut

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/162765...
Kees1
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Je kunt je afvragen of doorvechten wel de goede weg is. Nout Wellink, Hedy d'Ancona en anderen hebben daar een brief over geschreven. Een wapenstilstand zoals destijds in Korea zou een goede oplossing zijn. En ja, Oekraine zal dan een deel van het eigen grondgebied kwijt zijn. Dat is dan maar zo. Dat is toch verkieslijk boven nog eens honderdduizenden doden en gewonden en ongelofeijke verwoestingen.
luchtschip
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Dutch PM Mark Rutte said to Europravda :

"It will be done together with the US and Germany. Staff training is currently underway in the Netherlands, as Ukrainian soldiers need time to master these systems,"

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/162763...

Ukraine will receive the Dutch Patriot Air Defence system within 2 months.

He ( Mark Rutte ) also commented on Putin's 'red line' regarding an attack on Crimea.

"I think Russia understands: if they use nuclear weapons, the US will strike back and that answer will be much more powerful. The US is so much stronger than Russia that it simply cannot take that risk."

About the supply of F-16s he said: "I understand your arguments, but the beginning of the supply of F-16 fighters is still a significant step. Just as it was when we started supplying PzH2000, then went to Leopard 2. Also, we are not alone here, we must do it in the coalition."
DeZwarteRidder
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Kees1 schreef op 20 februari 2023 15:43:

Je kunt je afvragen of doorvechten wel de goede weg is. Nout Wellink, Hedy d'Ancona en anderen hebben daar een brief over geschreven. Een wapenstilstand zoals destijds in Korea zou een goede oplossing zijn. En ja, Oekraine zal dan een deel van het eigen grondgebied kwijt zijn. Dat is dan maar zo. Dat is toch verkieslijk boven nog eens honderdduizenden doden en gewonden en ongelofeijke verwoestingen.
De oorlog zal pas stopgezet worden als Poetin dood is of als beide partijen oorlogsmoe zijn.
Kees1
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luchtschip schreef op 20 februari 2023 15:46:

Dutch PM Mark Rutte said to Europravda :

"It will be done together with the US and Germany. Staff training is currently underway in the Netherlands, as Ukrainian soldiers need time to master these systems,"

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/162763...

Ukraine will receive the Dutch Patriot Air Defence system within 2 months.

He ( Mark Rutte ) also commented on Putin's 'red line' regarding an attack on Crimea.

"I think Russia understands: if they use nuclear weapons, the US will strike back and that answer will be much more powerful. The US is so much stronger than Russia that it simply cannot take that risk."

About the supply of F-16s he said: "I understand your arguments, but the beginning of the supply of F-16 fighters is still a significant step. Just as it was when we started supplying PzH2000, then went to Leopard 2. Also, we are not alone here, we must do it in the coalition."
Waarom trekt Rutte hier zo'n grote broek aan?
Hij doet alsof Nederland een positie heeft die te vergelijken is met die van het VK. De afgelopen 10, 20 jaar is het Nederlandse leger volledig uitgekleed. Nederland is nauwelijks te verdedigen en dan deze grootspraak. Kijk eens naar bijvoorbeeld België, Ierland, Portugal, Oostenrijk. Die landen houden zich muisstil en stellen zich daarom veel minder kwetsbaar op.
Kees1
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DeZwarteRidder schreef op 20 februari 2023 15:52:

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De oorlog zal pas stopgezet worden als Poetin dood is of als beide partijen oorlogsmoe zijn.
Welnee, in Korea was het na drie jaar toch ook klaar. Poetin regeert Rusland niet alleen. Daar zit een hele club achter en daar moeten de Amerikanen zaken mee doen. Zelensky is niet zo belangrijk. Als de Amerikanen zeggen dat het klaar is, dan is het klaar.
DeZwarteRidder
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Kees1 schreef op 20 februari 2023 15:55:

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Welnee, in Korea was het na drie jaar toch ook klaar. Poetin regeert Rusland niet alleen. Daar zit een hele club achter en daar moeten de Amerikanen zaken mee doen. Zelensky is niet zo belangrijk. Als de Amerikanen zeggen dat het klaar is, dan is het klaar.
In Korea waren beide partijen oorlogsmoe.
DeZwarteRidder
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luchtschip schreef op 20 februari 2023 15:54:

In Kyiv, a plaque with the name of Joe Biden was installed on the Alley of Courage

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twitter.com/NOELreports/status/162762...
Blijkbaar was zijn bezoek al langer geleden gepland.
luchtschip
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A video of Joe Biden's visit to Ukraine.

1/4 - The moment when Biden arrived and was welcomed by Zelenskyi and his wife. Shortly after he met with Ukrainian officials.

video 2:15 minuut

2de tweet

2/4 - Zelenskyi made a statement about the importance of Bidens' support troughout the whole war. "I really appreciate that president Biden, and the American society from the very beginning of this tragedy and full-scale war has been together with us," Zelenskyi said.

video 2:15 minuut

3rde tweet

3/4 - Biden replied: "There shouldn't be any doubt whatsoever in the US support for Ukraine in their war against a brutal attack by Russia. It is good to be back in Kyiv."
video 2:15 miuut

4rde tweet

4/4 - "Again, the admiration for people of Ukraine, ordinary hardworkng citizens that were never trained to be military, they stepped up."

video 0:39 minuut

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/162762...
luchtschip
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Biden and Zelenskyi strolling trough Kyiv while the air alarm is still going off. Do they look scared to you?

Bosses.

video 0:31 minuut geluid aan

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/162761...
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