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Amor Arrows schreef:

"It is also apparent that gold and silver, time-tested stores of wealth, are better hedges against

wars and other crises

than against inflation.
Ik zou inflatie oorlog willen noemen. De oorlog van een overheid tegen haar eigen bevolking. De belangrijkste oorlog van een overheid is altijd tegen de eigen bevolking, omdat ze daar het meeste geld vandaan haalt. Buitenlandse oorlogen zijn bijzaak en bedoeld om angst te zaaien. "Onze soldaten schieten wildvreemde mensen in verre landen zonder pardon dood die geen enkele bedreiging voor ze vormen. Ze doen dit alleen omdat wij zeggen dat die mensen slecht zijn. Als jij je belasting niet betaalt, zeggen we dat jij slecht bent."
Belastingen tijdens bijv. Roosevelt waren dan ook torenhoog. Inflatie/schuld is nodig als het alleen met de belastingen van de huidige generatie niet meer te redden valt en de toekomstige ook verkocht moet worden.
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Voor de liefhebbers van historisch pre Nixon materiaal een absolute aanrader.

Tip: Goudgrafiek 1954 - 1968



Een uitzonderlijk historisch verloop inclusief de historische gebeurtenissen, onder een vaste Goudprijs van $35.

www.edelmetaalplaza.nl/web_redactie.a...

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
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Aanrader en weekend TIP: Good old John Kaiser stipt hier niet voor niets het goudpoductie probleem weer eens aan.

John Kaiser: Goud bij belangrijk niveau

We’re knocking on the door of $1,000, which is a very important psychological level.

John Kaiser: Knocking on the $1,000 Door

Gold investors know all too well the psychological importance of $1,000 gold. The yellow metal's been hovering frustratingly near that level for weeks after briefly surpassing it in February. According to John Kaiser, editor of the Kaiser Bottom-Fishing Report, "we're getting very close." In this exclusive interview with The Gold Report, John shares his "modest" price forecast of $1,300 - $1,400 within the next six months and presents strategies for gold companies looking to create value.

The Gold Report: John, you have said that you believe gold may go up to $1,300 to $1,400, but probably not higher. Can you give our readers an overview of how you achieved those targets?

John Kaiser: I think we’re ready for a real increase in the price of gold, which is why I am looking at more modest targets, such as $1,300 to $1,400, happening fairly quickly, probably bouncing plus or minus $200 or $300, around that level, but it’s a real price increase without a corresponding catastrophic collapse in the U.S. dollar or hyperinflation descending upon us.

TGR: What time frame are you looking at?

JK: I think we’re getting very close. We’re knocking on the door of $1,000, which is a very important psychological level. I would say in the next six months, as people realize that the banking system is still troubled and will be for a long time because an uptrend in real estate prices is not in the cards for a very long time. And, in order to make the banks solvent, the underlying collateral needs to have liquidity and a stable price.

I’m saying that in the next six months the realization will kick in that the world has changed in a significant way and the United States is losing its role as the overwhelming economic superpower and will continue to do so over the next 20 years as other countries such as China and India come into their own and pick up the slack that’s created by the collapse of consumption right now. If it breaches $1,000, I think it’ll very quickly go to $1,300-$1,500 and establish that as a new base.

What I’m arguing is that the uncertainty about the next 20 years is going to encourage more and more people to put part of their wealth into gold and keep it there. This expansion of investment demand differs from the situation we had in 1980. Back then we had a tenfold increase in the real price of gold from 1972 to 1980 and part of that was because gold’s value had been artificially suppressed through the gold standard and once that was removed, we had a slingshot reaction and gold adjusted to a price ten times higher. There were mines being shut down in the '60s because their costs kept rising while the gold price remained fixed. Then all of a sudden we had new technology in the form of heap leaching and new economies of scale that unleashed an enormous amount of new gold supply. During 1980 the new mine supply of gold was 42 million ounces, which was actually lower than the 48 million produced in 1970. It rose steadily after that, peaking at 82 million ounces in 1999 when gold was also under pressure from official selling by central banks and indirect selling through the gold carry trade made possible by gold leasing. From 1980 through last year gold producers added 1.9 billion ounces to the above ground stock, bringing it to about 5 billion ounces today. But mining costs have kept going up and up and the annual mine supply has been declining since 2004.

TGR: If the gold price continues to rise but costs remain stable, wouldn't one want to invest in the gold production companies?

JK: Yes. In the last four years the gold producers have not actually done very well despite the recovery from $260 to the current level. We’ve had a base metals commodity boom that drove up the costs of producing gold at a much faster rate than the price of gold was increasing. On an inflation-adjusted basis, $400 gold in 1980 today should be about $1,000. The rise since the low of 2001 is not a real price gain, just a catch-up. But in the current deflationary environment another 30% to 50% boost in the price of gold would be a real gain that has a profound impact on the bottom line of gold producers.

For companies that have deposits that are marginal when gold is $600-$700/oz., you wouldn’t dream of putting them into production with gold now at $925-$950/oz. But at $1,300-$1,400/oz., with the cost staying at $600/oz., all of a sudden there’s a huge margin available to be tapped. So we would see a rush of capital going into these deposits and companies and producers to develop these ounces in the ground and turn them into cash flow, which, of course, the market will use its discounted cash flow model to put a value on. And the key thing is, again, to see that this is a real increase in the price of gold and the sense that this is now the new reality, not just a temporary spike that will correct and drive gold back down to, say, $600.

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If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Did U.S. Export Over 175 Million Ounces of Gold?
By Patrick A. Heller, Market Update

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) publishes monthly Mineral Industry Surveys with one series that focuses on gold production, imports and exports. These reports include information from the U.S. Census Bureau on the quantities of refined gold bullion and gold compounds exported from the US.

The latest monthly report is from February 2009, which includes data for 2008 and early 2009. The February 2008 report is the oldest of these reports available at the USGS Web site (www.usgs.gov), which includes data for all of 2007. For prior years, there are annual reports that do not lay out the data in the same format.

In 2008, domestic U.S. gold mine production was reported at between 228 and 230 metric tons. Since a metric ton contains 32,151 troy ounces of gold, that means U.S. mine output was somewhere between 7.33 million and 7.395 million troy ounces last year. In 2007, gold mine output was about 244 tons, or 7.845 million troy ounces.

U.S. net exports (gross exports minus imports) of refined gold were about 10.8 million ounces in 2008 and 11.2 million ounces in 2007.

The intriguing statistics contained in these two annual totals is the net exports of gold compounds. For 2008, there were net exports of 2,818 tons (90.6 million ounces) of gold compounds. In 2007, the net exports were 1,988 tons (63.9 million ounces).

Rob Kirby of Kirbyanalytics in Toronto contacted a USGS employee knowledgeable in the preparation of these reports. This employee told Kirby that the USGS had contacted the U.S. Census Bureau to confirm the accuracy and details of gold compounds exported.

According to the Census Bureau, gold compounds include industrial type products containing low percentages or amounts of actual gold content, with gold paint being given as one example. Kirby mentioned to the USGS employee that the increase in net exports from 2007 to 2008 did not make sense given the global economic downturn. The USGS employee acknowledged that the figures did not make sense, which was one reason that the Census Bureau had been contacted to confirm the data.

Kirby then observed that the high value of such exports did not make sense if it could include only industrial goods, given the decline in global commercial activity. Rather, Kirby speculated the amount of gold exported indicated that it was more likely to be gold bullion or equivalent forms. To this, the USGS employee responded, "That would be correct."

So, for 2007 and 2008 combined, the U.S. exported 22 million ounces of refined gold and over 154 million ounces of "compound gold." This is more than 11 times U.S. gold mine production during those two years. In fact, this is higher than global gold mine output. Where did all this gold come from?

This amount of gold exceeds what is held by all private parties in the U.S. combined. When the U.S. government called in gold in 1933, it then melted down the coins without refining. As a result, such bars from the coin melt would have a purity of around 90 percent gold. These would not qualify for description as refined gold, but could fit the definition of compound gold.

In the past few years, several gold traders have commented that a surprising number of coin melt gold bars were being delivered in London and Zurich markets, bars which almost certainly came from the U.S. Treasury vaults.

It is possible that some of these gold exports could be the repatriation of foreign central bank gold that had been stored with the New York Federal Reserve. Such transfers would be classified as "exports" for purposes of this report. The other possibility is that it could be gold formerly held by the only central bank in the world that had that much gold - the United States.

Wherever this gold came from, it is bad news for the U.S. government. If foreign central banks are pulling their gold reserves out of storage in the U.S., that signals lost faith in U.S. financial strength, which the U.S. government would not want the general public to learn about. If the U.S. government has actually been exporting its own gold, while still trying to pretend that the quantity in its vaults is unchanged, confirmation of such exports would clobber faith in both the U.S. government and the dollar.

The U.S. government has not had a genuine audit of its gold holdings in decades. In recent years, it has changed the description of gold holdings in reports so that now it is only described as "custodial gold" rather than gold reserves.

The so-called experts such as the World Gold Council, GFMS, and CPM Group do not include the appearance of all these gold supplies in their reports on global gold supplies and demand, which makes their analyses grossly inaccurate.

The U.S. government has a huge interest in hoping that the general public will not notice or care where all this gold came from. On the other side, for their personal financial protection, Americans urgently need to know the source of all this gold.

Kirby released his report last Friday. I expect that it will foster a clamor for disclosure. If the U.S. government resists providing the information, people will assume the worst - that the U.S. government has a lot less gold than it claims. It would be difficult for the government to lie about the source of this gold and get away with it - too many analysts will be double checking the information. Alternatively, the U.S. government could honestly admit where the gold came from, which I am confident will show much lower gold holdings than reported. No matter how the U.S. government responds, I anticipate that this matter will spark a sharp increase in the price of gold.

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Gung Ho schreef:

Voor de liefhebbers van historisch pre Nixon materiaal een absolute aanrader.Tip: Goudgrafiek 1954 - 1968
Een uitzonderlijk historisch verloop inclusief de historische gebeurtenissen, onder een vaste Goudprijs van $35.
www.edelmetaalplaza.nl/web_redactie.a...
If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Goud in Euro niets aan de hand

Ondanks de scherpe daling in Dollars, is er met de Euro prijs van Goud niets aan de hand.

De afgelopen dagen geen updates, door een aantal afspraken....maar vooral door een flinke PC crash. Goed, we hebben het Goud zien afkomen van het $1000 niveau, iets wat veel mensen al hadden voorspeld. Niet omdat het logisch is, maar omdat een aantal partijen hier graag de 3 dubbele top willen neerzetten. De Goudprijs in Euro's blijft binnen de driehoek, dus daar is tot nu toe weinig aan de hand.

Laten we de grafiek er even bijhalen:

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So far so good dus...maar de eerdere stijging van Goud was primair een Dollar verhaal.....net als de daling van de afgelopen dagen. Het is natuurlijk wel opmerkelijk dat alle markten goed overeind blijven (ook de commodities), behalve Goud en Zilver.....het is niet nieuw, sterker nog...dit zien we bijna altijd. Het gevecht om het $1000 niveau is misschien even afgeslagen, maar zoals ook de Euro grafiek van Goud laat zien...is er weinig nodig om de boel te laten exploderen.

Natuurlijk is het belangrijk te kijken naar de andere markten, en de meest opvallende beweging komt van de Obligaties. Gevoelsmatig kan de rente hier niet veel verder meer oplopen, anders komt het economisch herstel in gevaar. Geld printen/ophalen zou een hogere rente moeten geven, maar dat is juist niet de bedoeling in een fiat systeem. Het is dus heel belangrijk wat de 10 jarige Obligaties gaan doen. De rente zou verder moeten oplopen, maar gezien alle interventies denk ik eerder het tegenovergestelde. Ook dat is voor Goud goed natuurlijk...een lage rente, hoge monetaire inflatie...got Gold?

greetz
mihaly

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Dragon's Hoard
By Michael Kosares (0 comments)

In one fell swoop, China profoundly alters gold market synergy.

"We've got a situation where Geithner is smiling and has no choice but to stress the credibility and stability of the US financial and economic system, while the creditors [such as the Chinese] smile back and say they believe him, while at the same time giving hand signals to their reserve managers to get rid of these things [U.S. Treasuries]." (Neil Mellor, Bank of New York-Mellon)
When China recently expressed its interest in purchasing $80 billion in gold (about 2600 tonnes), it profoundly altered the gold market's long-standing synergy in three significant ways:


First, it used to be that the threat of central bank gold sales would damage market sentiment. Now the threat of significant sales has been met with the threat of significant purchases.

Though the dragon hoard depicted by our good friend, Ed Stein is not yet a reality, China can back its desire to own gold with plenty of cold hard cash. At nearly $1.4 trillion in dollar-based assets, and almost $2 trillion in total reserves, $80 billion would consume a paltry 6% of China's dollar reserves. At the same time 2600 tonnes translates to roughly one-third the U.S. gold reserve -- a significant ambition by any measure. To give you an inkling of how this new synergy might work, when the International Monetary Fund announced recently it would like to sell about 400 tonnes of gold, China joined India in publicly pressing the IMF to sell its entire 3200 tonne hoard. On that news the gold market, which had been in a slow slide as a result of the IMF's announcement, turned and took another run at the $1000 mark.

Second, by becoming gold's most prominent champion, China mounts an aggressive defense of its domestic gold mining industry, and by proxy the rest of the industry as well.

Few people know that over the last few years China has quietly become the world's leading gold producer. Most of that production never leaves China's borders, but goes instead to the national reserves as a hedge against its currency holdings. China, by the simple expedient of defending its own interest, accomplishes much for the gold mining industry as a whole. By posing as a gold buyer of last resort, ready, willing and able to scoop up any sizable offer, China may have very well put a floor under the market price, though we are too early in the game at this juncture to predict what that price might be. There is no question, however, that China has put a floor under long termgold market expectations. One would have to go back to the first Central Bank Gold Agreement in 1999, which strictly limited the sale and leasing of central bank gold, to find an equivalent organized effort in defence of the long term price trend. Many feel that the original CBGA launched the current bull market in gold, and time will tell whether or not China's bold entry onto the gold scene will launch its second leg.

Third, by elevating gold to prominence in its national reserves, China lays the groundwork for the yuan's future use as a prominent reserve currency.

There is little doubt that China would like to make the yuan the currency of choice in the East and a strong measure of gold in its reserves would do much to enhance that possibility. For a comparative history, one would have to go all the way back to the late 1960s and the time of French president Charles DeGaulle. "The Last Great Frenchman" thought it best to hedge the national interest and elevate its future economic prospects by purchasing gold. A substantial amount of metal subsequently left U.S. coffers for European national balance sheets including that of France. DeGaulle was later vindicated when gold rose twenty five times in dollar terms over a short ten year period from $35 an ounce to $875 (1971 to 1980). Some of that same gold would later play a key role in the establishment of the European Union, the European Central Bank and the euro, Europe's currency. China, by its recent actions, appears to have similar intentions both in terms of gold and the yuan.

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In one fell swoop China has done much to alter the standing gold market synergy. When Congressman Mark Kirk announced China's desire to purchase gold during an interview with Fox News' Greta van Sustern, he noted "across across the board - in private - substantial, continuing and rising concern." Chinese leaders, he added, were sharply critical in private of the US Federal Reserve's policy of "quantitative easing," the modern equivalent of printing money. Kirk went on to say that rising concerns about the dollar and anticipated inflation had prompted China to: "[fund] a second strategic petroleum reserve and they plan to buy $80 billion worth of gold. . . Both of those investments only make sense if you expect significant dollar inflation."

In the years to come, China will continue to steadily build its gold reserves through domestic production. It will also attempt to purchase whatever gold it can on the world market through official sector purchases or whatever additional means it finds at its disposal. In the process it will become the fire-breathing dragon in the gold market's living room - ubiquitous and formidable, a presence that cannot be ignored. At the same time, it will find itself in stiff competition for the available physical gold with an international public which harbors the very same concerns for their own portfolios that Chinese officials expressed to Representative Kirk. Few among gold's growing legions would disagree with China's logic, or its now publicly voiced desire to hedge a potentially disastrous collapse of the dollar.

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© 2009 Michael Kosares

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

With over 30 years in the gold business as the owner of Centennial Precious Metals, Inc. and the USAGOLD website, Michael Kosares is a well-known expert in the field of gold. He is the author of The ABCs of Gold Investing: How to Protect and Build Your Wealth With Gold.

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Gung Ho schreef:

Did U.S. Export Over 175 Million Ounces of Gold?
By Patrick A. Heller, Market Update

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) publishes monthly Mineral Industry Surveys with one series that focuses on gold production, imports and exports. These reports include information from the U.S. Census Bureau on the quantities of refined gold bullion and gold compounds exported from the US.

The latest monthly report is from February 2009, which includes data for 2008 and early 2009. The February 2008 report is the oldest of these reports available at the USGS Web site (www.usgs.gov), which includes data for all of 2007. For prior years, there are annual reports that do not lay out the data in the same format.

In 2008, domestic U.S. gold mine production was reported at between 228 and 230 metric tons. Since a metric ton contains 32,151 troy ounces of gold, that means U.S. mine output was somewhere between 7.33 million and 7.395 million troy ounces last year. In 2007, gold mine output was about 244 tons, or 7.845 million troy ounces.

U.S. net exports (gross exports minus imports) of refined gold were about 10.8 million ounces in 2008 and 11.2 million ounces in 2007.

The intriguing statistics contained in these two annual totals is the net exports of gold compounds. For 2008, there were net exports of 2,818 tons (90.6 million ounces) of gold compounds. In 2007, the net exports were 1,988 tons (63.9 million ounces).

Rob Kirby of Kirbyanalytics in Toronto contacted a USGS employee knowledgeable in the preparation of these reports. This employee told Kirby that the USGS had contacted the U.S. Census Bureau to confirm the accuracy and details of gold compounds exported.

According to the Census Bureau, gold compounds include industrial type products containing low percentages or amounts of actual gold content, with gold paint being given as one example. Kirby mentioned to the USGS employee that the increase in net exports from 2007 to 2008 did not make sense given the global economic downturn. The USGS employee acknowledged that the figures did not make sense, which was one reason that the Census Bureau had been contacted to confirm the data.

Kirby then observed that the high value of such exports did not make sense if it could include only industrial goods, given the decline in global commercial activity. Rather, Kirby speculated the amount of gold exported indicated that it was more likely to be gold bullion or equivalent forms. To this, the USGS employee responded, "That would be correct."

So, for 2007 and 2008 combined, the U.S. exported 22 million ounces of refined gold and over 154 million ounces of "compound gold." This is more than 11 times U.S. gold mine production during those two years. In fact, this is higher than global gold mine output. Where did all this gold come from?

This amount of gold exceeds what is held by all private parties in the U.S. combined. When the U.S. government called in gold in 1933, it then melted down the coins without refining. As a result, such bars from the coin melt would have a purity of around 90 percent gold. These would not qualify for description as refined gold, but could fit the definition of compound gold.

In the past few years, several gold traders have commented that a surprising number of coin melt gold bars were being delivered in London and Zurich markets, bars which almost certainly came from the U.S. Treasury vaults.

It is possible that some of these gold exports could be the repatriation of foreign central bank gold that had been stored with the New York Federal Reserve. Such transfers would be classified as "exports" for purposes of this report. The other possibility is that it could be gold formerly held by the only central bank in the world that had that much gold - the United States.

Wherever this gold came from, it is bad news for the U.S. government. If foreign central banks are pulling their gold reserves out of storage in the U.S., that signals lost faith in U.S. financial strength, which the U.S. government would not want the general public to learn about. If the U.S. government has actually been exporting its own gold, while still trying to pretend that the quantity in its vaults is unchanged, confirmation of such exports would clobber faith in both the U.S. government and the dollar.

The U.S. government has not had a genuine audit of its gold holdings in decades. In recent years, it has changed the description of gold holdings in reports so that now it is only described as "custodial gold" rather than gold reserves.

The so-called experts such as the World Gold Council, GFMS, and CPM Group do not include the appearance of all these gold supplies in their reports on global gold supplies and demand, which makes their analyses grossly inaccurate.

The U.S. government has a huge interest in hoping that the general public will not notice or care where all this gold came from. On the other side, for their personal financial protection, Americans urgently need to know the source of all this gold.

Kirby released his report last Friday. I expect that it will foster a clamor for disclosure. If the U.S. government resists providing the information, people will assume the worst - that the U.S. government has a lot less gold than it claims. It would be difficult for the government to lie about the source of this gold and get away with it - too many analysts will be double checking the information. Alternatively, the U.S. government could honestly admit where the gold came from, which I am confident will show much lower gold holdings than reported. No matter how the U.S. government responds, I anticipate that this matter will spark a sharp increase in the price of gold.

[quote=Gung Ho]Voor de liefhebbers van historisch pre Nixon materiaal een absolute aanrader.Tip: Goudgrafiek 1954 - 1968
Een uitzonderlijk historisch verloop inclusief de historische gebeurtenissen, onder een vaste Goudprijs van $35.
www.edelmetaalplaza.nl/web_redactie.a...
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If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

Ik vraag me af wie dit leest.
AA zucht steeds.
Mineset, jij?
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Fortis Metals Monthly - June 2009 - Fortis/VM Group

www.virtualmetals.co.uk/pdf/FMM0609.

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Ik vraag me af wie dit leest.
AA zucht steeds.
Mineset, jij?
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simi500 schreef:

Goud,voor mij de kanarie in de kolenmijn.
liever een kanarie in een goudmijn
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Goud.nl schreef:

[quote=simi500]
Goud,voor mij de kanarie in de kolenmijn.
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liever een kanarie in een goudmijn
Wie deze twee kanaries zowat op hun dieptepunt gekocht hebben zitten nu op rozen.

finance.yahoo.com/q?s=WTM.TO
finance.yahoo.com/q?s=UW.V

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Bank of Korea to Buy Gold for First Time in 11 Years

From Dong-A Ilbo (East Asia Daily)
Seoul, South Korea
Saturday, July 4, 2009

english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bi...

The Bank of Korea has not purchased gold for 11 years but is expected to go on a gold buying spree, as the world's central banks have bought the commodity since the global economic erupted in September last year.

A Bank of Korea official said yesterday, "The bank has begun to set up a plan to manage foreign exchange reserves for next year. It has also closely watched central banks in other nations and trends in the global gold market. Given the changing global financial environment, the bank's management plan is critical."

According to experts, the comment implies that the bank plans to buy gold soon. Korea has the world's sixth most foreign exchange reserves but ranks just 56th in gold holdings.

China, which has the world's largest foreign exchange reserves, has secretly bought 454 tons of gold over the past six years. This has intensified global competition to obtain more gold.

The amount of gold bought by China over the period is 32 times larger than the Bank of Korea's gold reserves. The world's central banks have rushed to buy gold, since they believe the metal will replace the greenback when the dollar's status as the world's leading currency weakens.

The bank has said nothing officially, simply saying, "We have made no decision on the purchase of gold and cannot say if we have considered it." It will finalize by November its plan to manage foreign exchange reserves for 2010, but experts forecast that the bank will have no choice but to buy gold soon.

Based on its explanation, the central bank is apparently fearful that its management plan could cause trouble in the global financial market and harm national interests.

Chang Min, the head of the Korea Institute of Finance's macroeconomic research division who worked at the central bank until late last year, said, "The central bank has long considered several alternatives such as buying gold to diversify its foreign exchange reserve portfolio, which is heavily focused on dollars. It needs to secure more gold to diversify its investment."

Kwon Sun-woo, the head of macroeconomic research at Samsung Economic Research Institute, said, "The Bank of Korea's gold reserves are far less than enough. It should have bought more gold. Given the instability of the greenback, it needs to buy more gold."

As of late May this year, the Bank of Korea had 14.3 tons of gold, far less than that held by its counterparts in the United States (8,134 tons); Germany (3,413); China (1,054); Japan (765); Russia (537); Taiwan (424); the Philippines (154); Singapore (127); Thailand (84); Indonesia (73); and Malaysia (36 tons).

Worse, Korea is one of the world's worst in the share of gold in its foreign exchange reserves -- 0.19 percent by market price and 0.03 percent by book value.

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Gold price poised for spectacular and prolonged rally - Peter Schiff - Gold bullion and gold-related investments, especially gold mining stocks, will be the best bets in the protracted and severe inflationary environment likely to result from current global monetary policies.

Author: By Marc Davis Posted: Wednesday , 08 Jul 2009 Vancouver, BC (BNW Business News Wire) -

Gold prices are poised for a "spectacular" and prolonged rally as the recession deepens and investors finally become disillusioned with the U.S. dollar - So says renowned Wall Street financial forecaster and economist Peter Schiff, who loudly warned of the October 2008 stock market crash and accompanying recession as far back as 2006.

Since the global economic meltdown, the president of the Connecticut-based investment firm Euro Pacific Capital has struck a chord with rattled investors who have lost faith in America's bedrock financial institutions. Hence, his well-received television media blitz in recent months has focused on extolling the virtues of owning gold bullion or gold equities, as well as urging Americans to get out of U.S. denominated investment assets.

In a recent on-camera interview with BNW Business News Wire, Schiff suggests that the looming prospect of a hyper-inflationary environment in the U.S. will severely debase the greenback over the next few years. And the global investment community will realize that gold represents the ultimate "store of value" as a safe haven replacement for a discredited U.S. dollar.

Hence, gold bullion and gold-related investments, such as gold equities, will prove to be the best way to shield one's money from the ravages of a protracted and severe inflationary environment, Schiff says.
"If you really want to grow your wealth, you should own gold in the mining sector," he adds, while also suggesting that gold equities (companies that are already in production) offer the greatest leverage to rising gold prices.
"With gold stocks, there's obviously a lot of leverage to higher gold prices. As millions or billions of people discover gold as a store of value and as a way to escape inflation, there's going to be tremendous demand and somebody's going to have to supply that demand. It's obviously going to have to be mined," he says. "So the companies that have gold and mine it are going to see profit margins explode."

This extraordinary scenario will be accentuated by two key developments, Schiff says. One of them concerns the fact that burgeoning demand for gold will continue to outstrip annual global output. In fact, world gold production has been steadily declining since it peaked in 2001 in spite of a nearly U.S. $600 rise in gold's price since then.

"Mines are not as productive as they used to be. Supply is very constrained. So if we get a big increase in demand, there are really no significant new gold deposits that are going to come on-stream any time soon. So the companies that are already producing are simply going to be able to get a lot more money for the ounces that they pull out of the ground," he adds.

The other key consideration is an inevitable return to the ‘Gold Standard' as a way for the world's central banks to attach a meaningful valuation to each of their country's currencies, Schiff says.

"The only solution to the economic problems that we have today is a return to sound money... The world is ultimately going to have to move away from the ‘Dollar Standard' and back their currencies with something real. I think gold is the best thing to use. Gold has been money for 5,000 years," he adds.

"When we go back to a real monetary standard...you're talking about billions of people who don't own any gold right now who will. Where's the gold going to come from? It's going to get mined."

So obviously, in order for the world to go back to a Gold Standard, given how much paper money the U.S. government has printed, gold prices are going to have to be up in the stratosphere to make it work," he declares.

"I think that gold is going to go to many thousands of dollars an ounce. I'm not exactly sure how high but I think it will be a spectacular run."

Hence, gold producers will be big beneficiaries of the paradox that the noble metal is gradually reverting back to its traditional role as a last-resort hedge against economic turmoil and political crises at a time when underground supplies are beginning to dry up.

This suggests that gold stocks will be counter-cyclical investment stand-outs for the next few years, Schiff says. Against a grim backdrop of painful and pronounced economic contraction in North America, gold miners will literally have a license to print money.

"This is one sector that we can be very optimistic about because gold companies are going to be in the business of producing money. That's going to be the money that people want. Not what the central banks are printing, but what gold mines are producing. That's going to function as money," he adds.

Yet, even though most gold producers are already experiencing impressive year-on-year earnings growth that promises to dramatically accelerate over the next few years, their lustrous prospects have yet to win over the mainstream investment community, Schiff says.

"I think a lot of the gold stock prices don't reflect how high gold prices are going to go and what that's going to mean to the profitability of these companies. I don't think that this is appreciated by the market," he adds.

Indeed, small to mid-sized gold mining stocks are still being overlooked by most investors for their trend-bucking tremendous growth potential, Schiff says. Additionally, most of these gilded equities have been over-sold since the onset of the recession and can still be acquired at bargain basement prices.

"Most stocks are significantly below what they were (in 2007), even though the price of gold is higher and the cost of mining is lower," he says.

"And I think that the price of gold is going to keep rising faster than the price of producing it. And so gold companies are going to remain very profitable."

Meanwhile, the next major up-leg in what Schiff refers to as the early stages of a secular bull market for gold is not far off, he says. It has merely been delayed by an unexpected and unsustainable rally in the U.S. dollar in recent months. One that has been caused by global deleveraging and by the false sense of security that investors gain from moving their money into U.S. treasury bills in a time of crisis, says Schiff.

"One of the reasons that gold isn't stronger is because of this temporary strength of the dollar. This is keeping the gold market in check. And the dollar is getting some of the safe haven money that should be going into gold," he says.

"At some point that will stop. The people who are buying dollars will realize that there's no safety in dollars. Because the central banks are going to try to pay for the economic bailouts and stimuli by looting the world's savings and by printing money and debasing it."

"So, if you want to escape that, you hold gold, which is something that the government cannot debase," he concludes.

Marc Davis is Managing Editor of BNW Business Newswire - www.bnwnewswire.com

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one b
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Gung Ho.....Gold price poised for SPECTACULAR and prolonged rally.......

Howdy,

Vandaag nog niet: gold down >$17,00

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnx6a5mlM9M#t...

His comment on gold price manipulation comes at 4 minutes and 30 seconds into the interview.

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If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Amor Arrows schreef:

Vandaag nog niet: gold down >$17,00
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Jij hebt op bkings ook jarenlang grappig proberen te doen n.a.v. berichten over de economic meltdown die zou komen, eveneens onder het motto 'vandaag nog niet'. Dat heeft je blijkbaar nog geen nederigheid geleerd.

Blijkbaar denk jij niet dat goud spectaculair zal stijgen.
Waar durf je je wat dat betreft aan te committeren?

Maw: heb je zelf een visie waar je voor durft te staan, of parasiteer je alleen maar op mensen die wel een statement durven maken?
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Mijn advies is, dat je met enige voorzichtigheid iets kunt aanbevelen.
De verhalen van Gung zijn zo brallerig....

Een mening is leuk, maar je moet niet als Gung pretenderen, dat je het zo zeker weet.
Immers Gung wist het ook zeker met een hele serie flopaandelen als CFTN, HRG e.d. Dat waren zgn "elite-aandelen"... Verliezen van > 90 %....
Wat een b.s.
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Kees33 schreef:

..Waar durf je je wat dat betreft aan te committeren?

Maw: heb je zelf een visie waar je voor durft te staan, of parasiteer je alleen maar op mensen die wel een statement durven maken?
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